Unashamed – The Frog Hunt, Legacy, and Divine Mysteries
“I’m unashamed. What about you?”
Zach was barely off the plane—just hours ago he was 35,000 feet in the air. And now, he’s landed right in the thick of things. Usually, the Unashamed crew records in the early hours, but today’s session breaks tradition. And maybe that’s fitting, because what unfolded over the last day was far from ordinary.
Jase recounts a peculiar event: his first frog hunt of the season. “June,” he says, as if surprised himself. A few years ago, Louisiana instituted a formal frog season—bureaucracy finally catching up with the bayou. Jase never saw the point. “There’s a natural frog season,” he says, “just like crawfish.” Still, laws are laws, even when only a handful of folks in the country are actually out frog gigging.
The hunt wasn’t just for fun. It became a teaching moment—transformative even—for a group of kids grappling with slime, fear, and the unfamiliar. One child, terrified of touching a frog, watched Jase kiss one. Hollywood magic met bayou grit, and suddenly the kid was at the front of the boat, catching frogs like a champ.
That’s legacy—something Jase has been thinking a lot about since their dad passed. “It’s strange,” he says, “how losing someone shifts your view. Suddenly, teaching kids to frog hunt doesn’t feel trivial—it feels sacred.”
The night was unforgettable. And exhausting. Frog hunting, as he puts it, “is a contact sport.” Six frogs were cleaned, cooked, and devoured. “I’m feeling froggy,” he jokes. Then he shifts: “At church, we’re about to dive into Exodus. What would you do if the frog plague hit?”
That segues into a deeper discussion: the second plague—frogs—found in Exodus 8. The guys admit they’d misremembered it. Was it the fifth? Sixth? Nope. The second. Even the magicians of Pharaoh’s court managed to replicate it—though how exactly is a mystery.
Zach suggests something darker: “demonic power.” That thread pulls them toward Psalm 82, a battleground for theological interpretation. Jesus quotes it in John 10, and suddenly, they’re talking divine councils, celestial beings, and rebellion in the spiritual realm. The line between heaven and earth, they argue, was never meant to be divided. Eden was the model—God and man dwelling together.
But rebellion fractured that unity. Both heavenly and earthly beings chose their own way. Psalm 82 speaks of “gods”—lowercase g—celestial beings who abandoned their role. Jesus, in quoting this, isn’t just defending His divinity—He’s reasserting authority over the entire created order, visible and invisible.
The conversation shifts again, circling back to Kay Robertson, their mom. Rumors of her poor health spread online, but the truth is brighter—she’s bouncing back. “She walked up my steps,” Jase says proudly. “She’s working toward a beach trip.”
And there’s Mama Jo—94 years old, still driving, still visiting. “We talk about you in class,” they tell her. “You’re a wonder.” She smiles: “It’s 90% genetics, 10% makeup.”
From frog hunts to theological exegesis, from deep grief to new life, the episode zigzags like a bayou stream—unexpected, winding, but always purposeful.
Before wrapping, they tease what’s coming: a breakdown of John 10, where Jesus not only declares Himself the Good Shepherd, but claims oneness with the Father. It all ties back to the original plan: God getting His family back.
One of the final threads? A reminder that suffering isn’t always punishment. Sometimes, it’s the stage where the works of God are displayed most brilliantly. Just ask the blind man in John 9—or anyone who’s seen purpose emerge from pain.
And with that, they sign off—not with finality, but with anticipation.
“See you next time… on Unashamed.”